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    Darth Vader vs Zeon; What does it take? Also other Gundam vs Star wars talk.

    Zeon's conquest spreads far and wide throughout the galaxy. Taking Space Colonies, Bases and fortresses alike, and even Earth itself. It seems like all is lsot against the might of Zeon... until a sith from a long long time ago, and a galaxy far far away sets his eyes on a new prize.

    Darth Vader descends to face Zeon in battle. How much does it take for Zeon to defeat him?

    keep in mind we are talking completely broken Comic/Video game/EU OP Star Wars rules, where Darth Vaders force is strong enough to bring down Giant Space Ships or completely implode the machinery, choke people out from very very long distances, sense basically anything, and Lightsabers beat everything. Can slice through any metal, and beats any other beam that's not also a Lightsaber.

    How many zakus does it take? what Zeon unit is minimal in taking on Vader? Could Vader theoretically take on anything Zeon can dish out? Discuss.
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    Re: Darth Vader vs Zeon; What does it take? Also other Gundam vs Star wars talk.

    Not Darth Vader Vs. Iron Mask

    Or Empire Vs. Cosmo Babylonia?

    0/10.

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    Re: Darth Vader vs Zeon; What does it take? Also other Gundam vs Star wars talk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeon's RedComet View Post
    Not Darth Vader Vs. Iron Mask

    Or Empire Vs. Cosmo Babylonia?

    0/10.
    Ah yes. UC fans show their reading dyslexia again. here's bigger lettering for you

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    Re: Darth Vader vs Zeon; What does it take? Also other Gundam vs Star wars talk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gundam_Asgard View Post
    Ah yes. UC fans show their reading dyslexia again. here's bigger lettering for you

    "Darth Vader vs Zeon; What Does it Take? Also other Gundam vs Star Wars Talk."
    Oh wow, and now we have CE fans not knowing a joke when they see it.

    inb4youwereonlyjoking2

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    Re: Darth Vader vs Zeon; What does it take? Also other Gundam vs Star wars talk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeon's RedComet View Post
    Oh wow, and now we have CE fans not knowing a joke when they see it.

    inb4youwereonlyjoking2
    Who's joking

    anyways, go ahead and get on subject again before ZRC fulfills his destiny and makes it solely about CE as usual.

    is this Iron Mask with his forces we are talking? or Iron mask in Rafflesia?
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    Re: Darth Vader vs Zeon; What does it take? Also other Gundam vs Star wars talk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gundam_Asgard View Post
    Who's joking

    anyways, go ahead and get on subject again before ZRC fulfills his destiny and makes it solely about CE as usual.

    is this Iron Mask with his forces we are talking? or Iron mask in Rafflesia?
    It was just a joke that Iron Mask sounds like Vader due to his mask.

    As well as the F91 OST being a Star Wars rip.

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    I wasn't thinking that deeply about it. Esp since it's one sided since well Vader has the force and that crap is insanely OP. Esp in the EU stuff from what I know.

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    Re: Darth Vader vs Zeon; What does it take? Also other Gundam vs Star wars talk.

    It is. thats why I generally go with how much of a factions forces would it take to do vader in. but lets start smaller and work our way up this discussion.

    The Empire Forces, like Tie Fighters/Bombers/Interceptors and At-At/STs/ and etc mechs and their other such vehicles and machinery vs Zeon forces we know it. No team heroes, just straight grunt warfare. what do they fare against each other.
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    Re: Darth Vader vs Zeon; What does it take? Also other Gundam vs Star wars talk.

    On foot? Probbably the Empire... (inb4stormtrooperscanthits***) if only because laser blasters. Mechs vs Mechs? I'd go Zeon most likely.

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    Re: Darth Vader vs Zeon; What does it take? Also other Gundam vs Star wars talk.

    Nuke Vader, G3 the death star, and Minovsky particle their tec to death. then call it a day and go get a beer.

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    no Hero's? the no Vader? if Vader is there then Luke is a Zeon.

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    Re: Darth Vader vs Zeon; What does it take? Also other Gundam vs Star wars talk.

    Well, tough part is that Star Wars mechanics have shields around them, pretty definitively. But! the majority of SW tech is laser/beam based, while the bulk of Zeons weaponry is indeed ballistic. Look at how Empire Mechs like the AT-AT can just tank those laser shot. However the proton torpedo is an armament that fared much better against such things.

    Thing is though, I do think Empire's arsenal of weaponry such as the TIE series and the various AT's would all and all prove to out do Zeons forces, just on a practical level. I mean, TIEs would prolly wreck Zakus, and most of everything else like Goufs, Doms, and such.

    there was talk in a previous discussion that fighter Jets and such would absolutely wreck giant robots in real life. well, supes ditto for that.

    At anyrate, Main Empire heroes I'd say are; Vader, Emperor, Boba Fett (hired BH and all)
    and Zeons would be Char, Ramba, and Dozle.

    naturally more that can be listed. or i can just list Starkiller, and all is lost for Zeon.
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    Re: Darth Vader vs Zeon; What does it take? Also other Gundam vs Star wars talk.

    in atmosphere yes but not in space. it would only come down to who is faster and turn time, so Zeon is still in it to win it.

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    and the Gelgoog series has Beam weapons. no telling if a shield made to deflect lasers would stop a blast of plasma encased in a field of ions.

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    and anything the empire has ground based mech wise would be easy pickings for any well armed much more agile MS. brother Dom would own dat ass.

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    Re: Darth Vader vs Zeon; What does it take? Also other Gundam vs Star wars talk.

    I don't know. I think Zeon's Zaku could beat a TIE Fighter. For one the TIE Fighter has no shields, so it's completely vulnerable to the physical weapons of Zeon (i.e. the 120mm machine guns, the big bazooka, etc.). Secondly, while the TIE Fighter is highly maneuverable, that edge goes right out the window when dealing with a mobile suit as a mobile suit has a zero-turn radius while the TIE Fighter has a small turning radius. Another thing stacks against the TIE Fighter is the fact that they can only move forward like any typical space fighter, while a mobile suit could move in any 360 degree direction. If you want a good look at how a space fighter fares against a mobile suit, watch the first 3 minutes of the first Gundam: The Origin OVA.
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    Re: Darth Vader vs Zeon; What does it take? Also other Gundam vs Star wars talk.

    also i can shoot in one direction with my main weapon while flying in another direction. TIE fighters have to line up with the target.

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    Re: Darth Vader vs Zeon; What does it take? Also other Gundam vs Star wars talk.

    yeah, but TIEs are also more mobile and harder to hit. could easily zip by enemy fire, get its sights in, and take'em down. I dont zooks and rifles hitting them easily, nor machines guns getting the concentrated fire on one needed to take it down.

    but also i think TIEs can aim separately. I seem to recall Darth Vader using an aiming reticule. still limited to like a 90 degree cone as it has to be forward, but it isn't stapled into a single line of shooting.

    edit: Also, while the normal TIE Fighter doesn't have shielding, many of the TIE series does.
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    Re: Darth Vader vs Zeon; What does it take? Also other Gundam vs Star wars talk.

    wut? did you read anything Zeta wrote? no tie fighters are significatly less mobile. MS have a Zero turn radius can stop on a dime, and can shoot while flying backwards. and about tie fighters not having to line up the entire aircraft to hit. ive seen no evidence of that.

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    and darth vaders reticle was dead center of the fighter and did not move.

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