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    Hey guys. Anyone have any experience with Palmetto State Armory? Looking into getting one of their AR-15 rifles. My dad has one, and he hasn't had any issues with it.
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    @Thwalker

    they are ok. id suggest building your own AR, its just final assembly and the tools required are cheap if you have a torque wrench and a vice already. you can make a better rifle for about what you'd pay for a pretty stock rifle if you build it yourself. its all easy work just driving pins and basic install like that. and there are good tutorials everywhere. and firearms hold value pretty damn well. regardless of how little you shoot i promise you you will grow out of a basic ass AR. building it is all around a better deal. and the better you understand the rifle the better you will be able to maintain and use it. but thats just my 2cents. it depends on how into AR you think you will get. or how into them you end up getting. these guys have damn valuable input.


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    im very much into them so for me the answer is build but they say build the lower buy the upper and that is damn solid advice. get a good stock, grip and especially the trigger and have a better performing rifle without having to deal with the upper.

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    Hey Zaku, which of these would you recommend: Kar 98K, Lee-Enfield SMLE, or M1903 Springfield?
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    I think that is some good advice Zaku. I'm not apposed to building something. I've been looking into doing just that. Getting an upper and building the lower half myself. A friend of mine told me to look into the Ruger AR-556. Know anything about that?
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    oooh man Zeta that is not an easy choice. lol. sense they are range toys its gonna come down to personal preference, condition and ammo/parts cost and availability. see what ones you can feed easier (or reload for if you reload) and parts should not be to hard to find for any of them but look at prices and look at who is currently making parts. personally id go with the k98 cause A S T H E T I C S. but id look into what one you can find in what condition and matching serial numbers (gun shows are a ripoff 99% of the time. look at online auctions.)

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    And ruger is good quality in general but ive not done much research into their ARs. might want to look at reviews and try to find people who have run them hard and know what they are doing. the AR market has been over-saturated with fudds and EVERYONE makes ARs now. if you are building the lower a Spikes Tactical or aero precision would serve you well. just make sure its all Mill-spec and from a good manufacture. there are a lot of companies out there who will sell you a lower and call it mill-spec but are lying out their teeth to get your money. and be aware that not all AR parts are comparable. there are companies who make AR parts that only fit their stuff ( this is called commercial-Spec) if you go with all mill-spec (military specifications in case you dont know) and all from good companies then you will have no problems because everything will be made to the same tolerances even though it was all made by different companies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaku View Post
    oooh man Zeta that is not an easy choice. lol. sense they are range toys its gonna come down to personal preference, condition and ammo/parts cost and availability. see what ones you can feed easier (or reload for if you reload) and parts should not be to hard to find for any of them but look at prices and look at who is currently making parts. personally id go with the k98 cause A S T H E T I C S. but id look into what one you can find in what condition and matching serial numbers (gun shows are a ripoff 99% of the time. look at online auctions.)
    See, for me at least, it's either going to be the either the Springfield or the Lee-Enfield. If it's going to come down to those terms, then the Springfield is going to be the optimal choice as not only are parts going to be available through surplus rifles, but ammo is going to be readily available as the caliber of the M1903 is the famed .30-06 cartridge.
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    Oh and Anderson is a good example of what to avoid. they have shit quality control and are just out to make a buck. buying an Anderson is a dice roll. you may get lucky and end up with a part that works ok but you may end up with a part that wont even fit in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeta View Post
    See, for me at least, it's either going to be the either the Springfield or the Lee-Enfield. If it's going to come down to those terms, then the Springfield is going to be the optimal choice as not only are parts going to be available through surplus rifles, but ammo is going to be readily available as the caliber of the M1903 is the famed .30-06 cartridge.
    Yea. personal preference is going to be the main decider here. but you would regret it if you got a wall hanger when you wanted a shooter. but at the same time these are awesome and really historically significant rifles so maybe its more of a question of "which one to get first" lol. but it sounds like you got it figured out now. you could also get into reloading cheap and make match ammo for it. if you want to do precision stuff hand loading is KING. every single rifle is an individual and you will find a load that that particular rifle does the best with. you can cast the bore and determine how much freebore you have (distance between where the rifling actually starts and where the projectile is making contact when a round is sitting in the chamber) but yea im getting rant-y lol

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    Awesome, thanks for the food for thought Zaku! Really appreciate it.
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    Yea no problem. ARs are kinda my thing so if you ever have any questions feel free to ask.

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    Im gonna post a few suggestions and stuff for you to read up on, Thwalker.
    Here is some on rifling twist rates.
    https://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/ar-15-barrel-twist-explained/

    Awesome triggers
    https://geissele.com/lower-parts/triggers.html?p=1

    Magpul stocks are wonderful
    https://www.magpul.com/firearms-accessories/stocks/see-all

    A bit on feed ramps
    http://www.ar15fornoobs.com/to-m4-or-not-to-m4

    oh and i forgot to mention earlier defiantly go with a 5.56 upper. if you have a chamber cut for 556 you can shoot 556 or 223 out of it but if you get a upper in 223 its not safe to run 556 through it.

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    a 223 wild chamber is another option but personally im still on the fence on that one. so you will have to do your own research and decide on it

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    Also also i need to emphasize mill-spec FROM A REPUTABLE COMPANY. there is no organization or anything holding companies to the military standard. So just because a company says its mill-spec does not mean they didnt screw it up and sell it to you anyways or fail to meet the standard because money.

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    thwalker13, I bought a PSA stripped lower and built the lower myself, then bought a complete upper just like Zaku mentioned. I definitely recommend doing that. That way if you want to upgrade parts like the grip or the stock, you only have to buy what you want, rather than paying for a complete rifle and then buying your upgraded parts on top of that.

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    defiantly get a good trigger and stock. a good trigger will make you a better shooter and help you learn if you arent already experienced and the trigger is the most important link between you and the rifle. and the stock is a very important and often overlooked interface between your body and your weapon. also if you get a stuck case you need a stock that can take mortaring. you can get lower parts kits that include everything but the fire control group, buffer tube, buffer and stock. not sure if CMMG makes one but thats who i get LPKs from 99% of the time.

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    Also Thwalker something to consider.
    https://www.cmmginc.com/product-category/22lr-conversion/22-arc-conversion-kits/

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    Also Thwalker
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    lolol

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    Lol, yeah I don't think I'd need to do that. However, what I find most amusing, is the guy is wearing a TN shirt. I suppose we do things a little over the top here in East TN.
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    Lol cant say i blame you. and actually he is from Indiana. one of these days when i can drop $4000 just for fun i WILL have a fightlite MRC... if they are still in business lol. would go really nicely with my echo trigger. amd i hate the way FN converted the SAW to closed bolt. and they still charge $8000 for it. also did you read what i posted on feed ramps and twist rate? those are important decisions regarding what upper you buy. and not joking a dedicated .22 upper will let you train for cheap. they save you a lot of money and obviously a 5.56 can will work fine on it. https://www.cmmginc.com/product-cate...s/22lr-uppers/

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    Those are a little above my price range. I'd like to keep it below $550 for a complete rifle. But I'm not in a position to buy one right now. I'm just researching at this point. This winter I'll be redoing a lot on my motorcycle so most extra money is going to that right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thwalker13 View Post
    I think that is some good advice Zaku. I'm not apposed to building something. I've been looking into doing just that. Getting an upper and building the lower half myself. A friend of mine told me to look into the Ruger AR-556. Know anything about that?

    I'm a little rusty with my knowledge, but the Ruger AR-556 is not a bad rifle. I've never personally shot one but have heard really nothing but good things on it. The only negative thing i've heard is that the trigger is a little rough. But that can be easily fixed and usually will come out with a few hundred rounds (if not a gun smith probably wont charge you much to clean up the trigger).

    I concur with Zaku though, build your own if you can. Usually I've seen guys buy the cheaper ARs and then customize them, which they would have been better off just building their own from the start and would have spent about the same and had a better rifle. (I'm included in that figure... lol)

    If you have the $$ and want something pre-built that is going to preform well OOTB then you can't go wrong with Spikes. Their guns just overall feel great, light and durable and they preform well.

    I know you're in Tennessee but i don't remember where you told me what area (I believe you said Chattanooga area?), but if you're in or around the Nashville area, check out Outpost Armory. They have a good selection, you can at least get a good feel for what you are looking for.


 

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