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    An exquisite Mosin you got there, man. Still thinking of buying one for myself in the coming years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jfl0 View Post
    A couple of people may think I have gone too far. However- I got what I wanted at less the cost than a Smith & Wesson M&P15-22. I have about... *gets papers* The rifle cost me $249 out the door with taxes and fees. According to my records the firearm is worth $458, which means I have about $209 in upgrades done to it- the most costly being the stock.








    Pet name: Nina
    Make: Izhvesk (eezh-eevsk)
    Model: Mosin-Nagant (M91/30)
    Year of Production: 1942
    Caliber: 7.62 x 54mmR
    Action: bolt action
    Capacity: 5 rnds
    Upgrades:
    All military surplus rifles Jfl0 owns have non-permanent modifications.
    1" butt plate/rubber extension

    Additional details:
    Bayonet and oiling can included. All serial numbers match. Arsenal refurbished stock and rear sight.
    I've fired a Mosin-Nagant before, though it was the M44 Carbine. Still had plenty of kick. Tell me, does the bolt sometimes get stuck midway through the action? I ask as I've had this happen to me a few times and wanted to know if this was a problem found across the line.
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    This is where I say I got my stuff before the laws got stupider here.
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    ^ needs a shave and a haircut

    Pet name: Sasha (come on guys and girls, my firearms are all named after female 'stars'
    Make: Zastava
    Model: (Papovshka?) PAP M59/66 (SKS)
    Year of Production: ?
    Caliber: 7.62 x 39mm
    Action: semi-automatic
    Capacity: 10 rnd, 30 rnd
    Upgrades:
    All military surplus rifles Jfl0 owns have non-permanent modifications.
    30 round magazine
    Additional details:
    Bayonet and sling included. NATO (22mm?) grenade launcher. Serial numbers do not match. Electro-penning leads me to believe that this rifle is 922r compliant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeta
    Still had plenty of kick.
    You're right about that. They have authority behind them. I'm considering a recoil minded stock and a muzzle brake for mine. All non-permanent, of course.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeta
    Tell me, does the bolt sometimes get stuck midway through the action?
    Mine does not. I am aware of that issue and it is due to a sticky bolt and excess Cosmoline in the chamber and possibly in the bolt. I took that bastard (the bolt) and gave it a major league cleaning, in addition to the chamber, of course. I have not had that issue with my Mosin. It is a common problem if folks don't clean it out right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dlinker
    An exquisite Mosin you got there, man. Still thinking of buying one for myself in the coming years.
    I got mine for $170 out the door with taxes and nominal fees (in Pennsylvania they charge $5 for the background check then another $5 mandatorily by law for the Wildlife Conservation Fund). Do not pay more than $200 for a round receiver Mosin, in my opinion. Some guys/girls will tell you not to go over $150.

    If I recall correctly you said you live in either California or New York. The Mosin Nagant is still legal in those states since it is a 5 round fixed magazine. As for the Yugo M59/66, good luck I was bit by the military surplus bug. Should not have bought the Mosin I like shooting it because the rifle is affordable, reasonably accurate to minute of nazi, and the ammo is about 27 cents per round. Likewise for 7.62 by 39mm- I have to go looking for it higher up the proverbial tree, but it isn't at the top- and not low hanging fruit either- but the prices are affordable.

    I purchased my Mosin on a need basis. .22lr is still a bit dry after two years- though I am seeing it trickle in in the form of 50 count boxes. The need was for:

    'Rob needs bigger bore'
    'Rob wants more gun'
    'Rob wants cost effective 30 caliber rifle'
    'History a plus'

    There are things I would like to do to my M91/30 and my M59/66, but money constraints at the moment limit me from doing so. My mosin allows me to reach out far- and the SKS is my intermediate, semi-automatic rifle that is just a friggin workhorse. Stay tuned in the future for golf balls being launched in excess of 500 yards (5 american football fields)



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    I think this is a interesting article

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/07/09...-claims-study/

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    I largely agree with Tom Burke from the article. I am a permit holder. I believe the permit process does in fact save lives- but I believe there are other factors that lead to crime reduction. I ask Lott the same question: prove it to me. I don't think California has a chance at concealed carry and neither do states like Maryland, New Jersey or New York until the people there change. I left Illinois because it violated my constitutional rights. $600 is absolutely unreasonable.

    I was born in the state of Maryland. I am absolutely ashamed of my birth state. At the utter bottom of the barrel. People in government there need to be placed under arrest.

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    Thanks for the info on the price. Very affordable and it looks like the ammo is too, which is a big plus. I live in CA so hopefully it's still legal by the time I get to buy one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jfl0 View Post
    I largely agree with Tom Burke from the article. I am a permit holder. I believe the permit process does in fact save lives- but I believe there are other factors that lead to crime reduction. I ask Lott the same question: prove it to me. I don't think California has a chance at concealed carry and neither do states like Maryland, New Jersey or New York until the people there change. I left Illinois because it violated my constitutional rights. $600 is absolutely unreasonable.

    I was born in the state of Maryland. I am absolutely ashamed of my birth state. At the utter bottom of the barrel. People in government there need to be placed under arrest.
    +1 from someone still in Maryland.
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    Thats a pimped out 10/22 very nice and that Mosin looks like its in good shape. Thats getting hard to find around here all the gun stores have left are the beat up ones and they don't want to order more until there all sold out just because there dumb like that. And that SKS is nice i was thinking about sharpening the bayonet on mine but it never really stays on the rifle lol.

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    I've been thinking of getting a SKS lately because the prices have been coming down, I should get one before the next elections because that will drive the prices right back up again

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    There great rifles. Even if they are older than dirt.

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    It's ok to have a Mosin beat up a little. My M91/30 is a re-arsenal and the stock has some repairs/dings/inconsistencies in the finish. My buddy's M91/30 has a better stock but minor pitting in the bolt in non-critical areas. I would prefer one that isn't as beat up of course- but what you really want to look for is integrity of the parts and integrity of the barrel. I have seen beat to s*** chinese T-53's that had pretty darn good barrels and quality actions, but the stock was beat to living hell and back.

    If you guys would like Mosins that are in stock at my price point I can reference you to the store that sold me mine. There will be a transfer involved out of state, but if you can't find one locally this isn't a bad option. Remember that fees and shipping will add about $50 to the price tag. If you live near a Cabelas they should have some in stock. No more than $200.

    Quote Originally Posted by Psyco Diver
    I've been thinking of getting a SKS lately because the prices have been coming down
    I wish! I had to cough up for that M59/66. If you want a Chinese Type 56 (Norinco) it will also serve you well. The Chinese made an epic buttload of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Psyco Diver
    I should get one before the next elections
    2008 was a pre-panic in my opinion, but no doubt there will be some brief instability in 2016, considering who is running (every democrat running is pro-confiscation and anti-gun).

    Prices on the SKS are going up. Mosins will kind of hang around $200 for a bit, but in time they will go up. Mausers are going up as well- and at some point I want a good Mauser 8mm rifle. I saw a Turkish one for $150 that the stock was beat to all hell, but the rifling was very pronounced.

    I discovered that my SKS is a "G" model produced in 1970. At some point in its 44 year career here it was re-arsenaled in either Yugoslavia or Serbia- leading me to believe it could have been used in the Bosnian War. It's 7.62 x 39mm; they were going to need all the firepower they could get. If this SKS was used for the purpose of ethnic cleansing- which, I will have no idea if it ever was- then I will not be very happy about it. Then again- it is always a tool. It is neither evil nor good- but the person using it for good or evil does carry the trait.

    My M91/30 is an Izhvesk model 1942 production. No indications of sniper selection or use- but it is fairly accurate for what it is. According to the definitive source on Mosins, there is a 99% chance it was used in World War II. There is no way to tell where the rifle has been and who (or what) it has shot.

    I will often tell people. The purpose that my 10/22 was built was to plink, hunt small game, then any other lawful purpose. The M91/30 and the M59/66 were both made with a clear purpose- to serve in war as a weapon of war. Irregardless of the original intent of creation, my firearms are used for the purpose of range shooting, plinking and self defense. It is kind of ironic really- a weapon of war being preserved as a relic and maintained for sporting use.

    The president often refers to rifles as 'weapons of war'. While it may be true that those two firearms I have are weapons of war, any weapon in my inventory can immediately serve that purpose. If I had a break open shotgun it could serve that purpose- albeit not as effectively as a semi-automatic, 30 round, intermediate caliber rifle can.
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    Here's some gun porn for ya. Yugo Underfolder.
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    So I completed my lower and am looking to build the upper some time in the near future. Is it advised to build an upper from scratch or should I just look for a completed, barreled upper? Mind you this is my first build and I'm a total noob.

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    Id build the upper too. Its the same situation it saves you money and you get just what you wanted. The only tool i do not recommend buying for the upper is the go and no go gauges. Use a round for the go gauge and go to your local gun shop and ask them to slap a no go gauge in it. There not worth buying. A upper vice block with the pins really helps though. Especially when it comes time to tighten down your barrel nut. And a few odd ball tips are, do not buy chrome lined barrels. They dont last for shit. The nickel plated bolt carrier groups are all right but personally i dont think there worth it either. Those square holes on the side of your AR armorers tool are there for muzzle devices but they wont fit all of them obviously. However they will fit most of them and they will certainly fit a A2 birdcage. And the ejection port cover might drive you insane but take your time and if you want to use painters tape and tape up the side of you receiver so you dont accidentally scratch it with your hammer or punch. And if you have any questions at all please ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinski1015 View Post
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    Here's some gun porn for ya. Yugo Underfolder.
    Nice man how many rounds you got through it?

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