Firearms pt.2

[TheWhiteWolfofSolomon]

It's sad, it's now easier to buy a handgun in CA then it is in my state.

[outamyhead]

Technically the Circuit Judge is a rifle, with a revolving five shot barrel, that can do .44 magnum or 410 shotgun shells, so I guess it could be a shotgun as well. my friend that owns one, and my relative who is into guns said it's the best of both worlds, for home defense or to just go out and plink some rounds off at the range.

[exia-7]

I'm looking to get my first firearm. Thinking about building an AR platform little by little (aka may take several months until I complete it). Any suggestions as to parts or brands? Is it really true that most lowers are pretty much the same and you pay more or less for the name? I was looking at starting out with a PSA blemished lower which can be had for 59.99.

[Zaku]

Building a AR is for sure the way to go. And sort of true with the lowers. Just stick with a forged lower. The difference being when they make the billet lowers they just CNC them from cast material. And forged lowers are actually forged blanks then machined. And as far as brands to look for their is CCMG, Black Rain Ordinance, Daniel Defense, DPMS, Rock River Arms, Armalite, Bushmaster, Colt, Smith & Wesson. Just to name a few. But some brand names will just buy the parts from someone else and slap their name on it. You just have to research the company and look for reviews. As far as the actual build the tools you will need are not expensive and most of them will be quite useful as you progress through the hobby. A few things you will need are a AR-15 armorers tool a very handy tool it is too. And you will want a set of brass tipped punches. I know its tempting to just save the money and use regular punches but you would be surprised how much a big ugly mark on your all flat black rifle will bother you lol. And a gun smithing hammer with a brass face and a polymer face is also helpful. And buy a set of vice blocks one will be made to fit in the mag well and one will come with a set of pins for the upper. These will make your life easier. Oh and another parts tip. Do not buy chrome lined barrels they suck. And as far as plastic parts go a few good brands are Magpul rules, Houge grips are awesome and troy rails rock. Oh and CCMG makes a drop in conversion for .22 Lr that is really fun. Although it will jam from time to time but its not a big deal. And if you have any questions at all feel free to ask.

[exia-7]

Wow. Thanks for the tips Zaku. I was only thinking I would be buying parts for the rifle, did not consider the specialty tools needed. I think for now I am going to just get a stripped lower and buy a lower parts kit. The upper, bolt, barrel, stock, etc. will come in the following months. You seem to know your stuff so I hope you don't mind me messaging you every so often.

[Psyco Diver]

Its a shame, some company had a really good sale a couple months ago on a complete lower and complete upper, together they came out to just under $500, granted you still needed to buy sights and mags, but not a bad deal at all, wish I had the cash at the time to take advantage of it

[Zaku]

Wow. Thanks for the tips Zaku. I was only thinking I would be buying parts for the rifle, did not consider the specialty tools needed. I think for now I am going to just get a stripped lower and buy a lower parts kit. The upper, bolt, barrel, stock, etc. will come in the following months. You seem to know your stuff so I hope you don't mind me messaging you every so often.

Not a problem. And thats the way i do it too. A little bit here and their is easier for your wallet to handle and also you can build a rifle just the way you want it. You dont have to buy a basic AR then start replacing parts with stuff you wanted in the first place. And you can ask all the questions you like ill help as much as i can. And it would be a good idea to post them here so the others can chime in too.

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Its a shame, some company had a really good sale a couple months ago on a complete lower and complete upper, together they came out to just under $500, granted you still needed to buy sights and mags, but not a bad deal at all, wish I had the cash at the time to take advantage of it

That is a shame. Do you remember their name?

[exia-7]

So I went to go and buy ONLY a stripped lower receiver. Ended up buying a lower parts kit and stock kit as well -_- retail people really know how to persuade you.

@Zaku, is there anything in an average toolbox that could sub in for an armorer's tool?

[Zaku]

Lol i know that feeling well. Its rare you go into a gunstore and buy only what you intended. And as far as the tool goes id really recomend buying one. They arent very expensive and you will certanly get your useage out of it. And i wouldent go after your barrel nut or buffer tube with a set of channel locks. Also if you get a tool with the 3/8 hole for the torqe wrench just do the math the same as you would if you were using a crows foot.

[exia-7]

Oh man have no clue what a crows foot is or a channel lock lol. Well maybe I will invest in an armorer's tool. Any suggestions to where or what to get?

[Psyco Diver]

That is a shame. Do you remember their name?

Not for the life of me, I believe it was a short term sale because when I tried to search for it a month or 2 ago I couldn't find it anywhere, I believe it was Rock River or something along those lines

[Zaku]

Well damn we both missed out. I would have bought one too.

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Oh man have no clue what a crows foot is or a channel lock lol. Well maybe I will invest in an armorer's tool. Any suggestions to where or what to get?

Sorry about the late reply im just now seeing this. And thats cool their are a lot of good references so learning what things are and what they do will be a pice of cake. And this is a pretty good tool.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/271183/ar-stoner-multi-tool-ar-15-steel

[Jfl0]

Oh wow. Went over to a part 2 thread while I was gone? lol nice.

Looking to buy my first gun in CA

California is one of the nasty states. Smith & Wesson and Ruger are halting sales to California on some of their guns due to microstamping laws. It's a lot of BS and infringes on your rights.

In Pennsylvania I can go to a gun store, purchase any gun I want (that isn't a class 3- that requires paperwork and waiting) wait a few minutes for a background check, pay for it and leave. There is no registration of firearms in Pennsylvania and I don't take any courses or fill out any paperwork other than a 4473 (the background check). My right to carry a handgun for self defense (where applicable by law) is also recognized by Pennsylvania on a shall-issue basis. South of us, North of us, and East of us you ain't getting jack in terms of rights (Maryland, New York, New Jersey).

It's sad, it's now easier to buy a handgun in CA then it is in my state.

I remember doing an analysis of states with strict gun control laws- and their crime statistics are out of line with the rest of the country- that is, the crime there is worse. Maryland and New York are tied for second place in terms of being the most difficult place to get a firearm. Handguns in MD? forget it. Not happening and the people won't do a damn thing to stop it.

Technically the Circuit Judge is a rifle, with a revolving five shot barrel, that can do .44 magnum

Lol yes please.

Lol i know that feeling well. Its rare you go into a gunstore and buy only what you intended.

Impulse buy'd a Yugoslavian SKS. Intended to buy only ammo.



Gun porn time.











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Pet name: Alexis
Make: Sturm Ruger
Model: 10/22
Caliber: .22lr
Action: Semi-automatic
Capacity: 25 rnds
Upgrades:

Ruger BX-25 Magazine
ATIgunstocks Strikeforce, folding pistol grip
Simmons 3-9x 22mag scope
OTG bipod/foregrip
UTG weaver/picatinny aluminum rail
UTG 1" Accushot rings

[exia-7]

That is one decked out 10/22. Mind me asking how much you put in to upgrading it?

[Jfl0]

That is one decked out 10/22. Mind me asking how much you put in to upgrading it?

A couple of people may think I have gone too far. However- I got what I wanted at less the cost than a Smith & Wesson M&P15-22. I have about... *gets papers* The rifle cost me $249 out the door with taxes and fees. According to my records the firearm is worth $458, which means I have about $209 in upgrades done to it- the most costly being the stock.








Pet name: Nina
Make: Izhvesk (eezh-eevsk)
Model: Mosin-Nagant (M91/30)
Year of Production: 1942
Caliber: 7.62 x 54mmR
Action: bolt action
Capacity: 5 rnds
Upgrades:
All military surplus rifles Jfl0 owns have non-permanent modifications.
1" butt plate/rubber extension

Additional details:
Bayonet and oiling can included. All serial numbers match. Arsenal refurbished stock and rear sight.