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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra View Post
    Are there any differences in quality or anything really if you buy a cheap general use airbrush rather than one of the major brand ones?
    Generally no. I went with a fairly cheap setup with airbrush combo (Although I already have a pretty decent Paasche):

    http://www.tcpglobal.com/airbrushdepot/abdkitG23.aspx

    I got the one with the TC-20T with tank but they shipped me the TC828 by accident and they let me kept it without paying the difference. Having a tank with a regulator gives you really stable air pressure.

    The thing is that no matter what compressor you have. Having a regulator and a moisture trap is pretty much a must. You can pickup stuff fairly cheap here:

    http://www.tcpglobal.com/airbrushdepot/abfilter.aspx

    Or just a moisture trap here:

    http://www.tcpglobal.com/airbrushdep...emno=ABD+TF-12
    Last edited by Wiz33; April 1, 2013 at 1:48 PM.

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    When I get one I am aiming for one with both of those if I can anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra View Post
    When I get one I am aiming for one with both of those if I can anyway.
    TCP is U.S. but I have seen similar setup available on eBay UK .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiz33 View Post
    Which compressor are you using at what pressure? Do you have a moisture trap? Is you paint thinned correctly?
    I may not have thinned the paint properly. I was using Vallejo grey primer, which says it's already adequately thinned for airbrushing, but I'm assuming you still need to thin it?

    As for the compressor, I use a Paasche D500. I don't have a regulator so I have no way to tell what the PSI is, but it did feel rather forceful when I used it.

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    I use Vallejo primer regularly and I never thin it. Sprays fine at 20 PSI on both my HP-CS and Master G44 airbrush. Sounds like you could have been using too much air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinneganBojangles View Post
    I may not have thinned the paint properly. I was using Vallejo grey primer, which says it's already adequately thinned for airbrushing, but I'm assuming you still need to thin it?

    As for the compressor, I use a Paasche D500. I don't have a regulator so I have no way to tell what the PSI is, but it did feel rather forceful when I used it.
    Is it splattering once in a while or constantly? Can you spray water without splatter? Did you try adjusting the nozzle on the Paasche to a smaller pattern and does it still splatter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiz33 View Post
    Is it splattering once in a while or constantly? Can you spray water without splatter? Did you try adjusting the nozzle on the Paasche to a smaller pattern and does it still splatter?
    When I had a smaller pattern it was spraying virtually nothing. I know you usually need a fine coat, but there was almost no paint adhering to the plastic. This was true until I opened up the nozzle almost all the way, and then it splattered really badly. It didn't have that problem when I just tried water.

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    What's your needle size? If it's smaller than 3mm i find you sometimes need to thin a bit more, especially with primer.


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    I don't have a pressure regulator
    Please refer to slide one, mandatory equipment #2 and #4. Splattering can be caused by many issues, usually by paint building up on the exterior and being blown out as it builds up. May also be caused by moisture in the line. May also be caused by buildup in the nozzle, which may lead to a clog.

    Badger Airbrush Co. FAQ:

    This is caused by an
    incorrect triggering technique of stopping air flow (releasing downward trigger pres
    sure) before turning off paint flow (sliding trigger/needle forward to close off paint tip).
    By turning air flow off before paint flow, paint goes around the needle and “floods” the nozzle.
    The result of this “flooding” is either one of two things.

    1. As the needle returns forward upon releasing the trigger, it pushes the paint that has
    flooded the paint tip out in a burst or splatter of blotched dots.

    2. If possibility 1 does not occur the “flooded” paint remains in the nozzle and is blown out in a burst or splatter of blotched dots when the trigger is depressed to resume airbrushing.

    This is another technique issue that can be prevented by learning and developing
    proper triggering technique. Remember to carefully slide the trigger back
    forward to stop paint flow, don’t let it “snap” back.
    but it did feel rather forceful
    If what I suspect is true, you are shooting paint out of that brush at 30-40psi.

    Are there any differences in quality or anything really if you buy a cheap general use airbrush rather than one of the major brand ones?
    Yes. I have a lifetime no questions asked warranty with my Badger. Parts are customizable and I can fit different needles into the brush for different purposes. Cheap brushes will not give you the quality of an airbrush built with excellent tolerances. I recommend Badger because I use it, Iwata and Paasche.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinneganBojangles View Post
    When I had a smaller pattern it was spraying virtually nothing. I know you usually need a fine coat, but there was almost no paint adhering to the plastic. This was true until I opened up the nozzle almost all the way, and then it splattered really badly. It didn't have that problem when I just tried water.
    Is this the one you're using now:

    http://www.paascheairbrush.com/produ...le-action/h-1l

    This is like the first one I had a long time ago before I move to double action. If you have no problem with water, try thinning your primer a bit more and see.

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    How awful does this look:

    http://www.wonderlandmodels.com/prod...et-compressor/

    I'm only just starting so i'm not interested in shelling out a lot atm. Not that I couldn't afford it but i'm not keen since if I don't like then i've wasted a lot of money. It is at least made by a modelling company and has good ratings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra View Post
    How awful does this look:

    http://www.wonderlandmodels.com/prod...et-compressor/

    I'm only just starting so i'm not interested in shelling out a lot atm. Not that I couldn't afford it but i'm not keen since if I don't like then i've wasted a lot of money. It is at least made by a modelling company and has good ratings.
    No, No, No. Revell does not make those stuff (as you say they make models), They buy it from some OEM then slap their label on it and charge more. Check out this link. I think he listed a bunch of UK eBay setup for with tank for about 20 pound more.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-19Nt...ature=youtu.be

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    What was that supposed to show me exactly? Got a link for the ebay thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra View Post
    What was that supposed to show me exactly? Got a link for the ebay thing?
    Thought he had a link on one of the vids but here's one for you:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nk...at=0&_from=R40

    You can get one with tank that comes with 2 airbrush for less than the Revell.

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    Would this be good for later on:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Premi-Air-...item336f9c21fe

    Cheapest Iwata kit on ebay. For the moment this is the one I was looking at getting:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AS-186-Com...item2eb4bff640

    While it's not a brand name one (I don't think the auction even tells you the brand at all haha) it looks alright and it has a moisture trap and pressure gauge.


 

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