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Riah
July 5, 2018, 9:02 PM
http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/07/05/gundam-live-action-movie-announced

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mFRRJNrw78


I'm expecting the worse, but hell yeah I'm gonna still watch it.

Zeta
July 5, 2018, 9:22 PM
Honestly, I have a bit more faith in this project than I do in other live-action anime film projects in part because of Legendary Studio's success with giant robot films. However, I still have few reservations about this project: 1) What's the budget, 2) who are going to be the writer(s) and do they understand the core concepts of Gundam, and 3) who is going to be the director.

Zeta-G
July 6, 2018, 5:00 AM
Of all the American movie studios, Legendary is almost certainly the best possible production partner for Sunrise to make a live action Gundam movie that doesn't suck. No guarantees, but if any American studio can capture what makes a Japanese product like Gundam tick and please both the fans of the source material and the broader non-Japanese movie-going market, it's Legendary.

If you want a simple reason for why Legendary is the best studio for the job, let's compare Legendary's Godzilla (2014) with TriStar's Godzilla (1998). Two American adaptations of what is quite possibly Japan's biggest and most well-known pop culture export ever (for 64 years and counting); Godzilla is literally about as well known of a pop culture character worldwide as Mickey Mouse or Darth Vader. Godzilla is so well known, that -zilla is used as a suffix for completely unrelated things (e.g. bridezilla).

To say that TriStar's Godzilla was universally hated by Godzilla fans is an understatement; (almost*) everything about that horrible movie showed exactly how little TriStar cared about the honoring the spirit of the Godzilla franchise or pleasing its fans, to them Godzilla was just a brand name they could use to sell their generic iguana monster movie. Not one, but two mainline Japanese Godzilla movies went out of their way to make fun of how un-Godzilla the monster in that train wreck of a movie was (GMK with its line of "a few years ago a giant monster attacked the east of America; the Americans claim it was Godzilla, but our experts here have doubts." and Final Wars in which the director literally renamed the TriStar Godzilla, Zilla, explaining the Americans had taken the "God" out of Godzilla, and then had the real Godzilla kill "Zilla" in about 30 seconds flat). Godzilla 1998 didn't do well with wider audiences either, and it garnered extremely negative reviews across the board. *To the terrible 1998 movie's credit, it does at least acknowledge Godzilla's original Japanese name, Gojira, within the actual story.

Contrast this with Legendary's 2014 effort. Godzilla 2014 may not be the best Godzilla film ever made, but it's also far from the worst. More importantly, unlike the 1998 film, it actually captures the spirit of Godzilla himself; it feels like a Godzilla movie, not a generic monster film (unlike Godzilla 1998). Most Godzilla fans (including Japanese fans and Toho creatives) as well as general movie goers actually enjoyed the 2014 movie. Critics generally gave it relatively good marks (by genre standards of course). Really the biggest flaws of Godzilla 2014 as a Godzilla movie were that it avoided the anti-nuclear message of the original, preferring to focus on monster fights instead (presumably since American audiences generally hate having the US portrayed in even the slightest of negative ways on screen; the TriStar movie got around this by blaming the French instead; to relate this to Gundam think of how pissy some American fans get about the Atlantic Federation and the Union being antagonists), and the fact that Godzilla 2014 was a gigantic tease in terms of monster fights right up until the fight during the last act, which was so glorious when it finally happened that most fans (myself included) happily forgave the movie for its constant teases and just enjoyed watching Godzilla finally dispatch the MUTOs as only the Big G can. Again the 2014 Legendary Godzilla movie wasn't perfect, but it was definitely a Godzilla movie in spirit and left fans wanting more. Furthermore, while not actually a Godzilla movie (although it is set in the same movie universe as Godzilla 2014), Kong Skull Island demonstrated Legendary actually listening to Godzilla/Kaiju fans' main criticisms of Pacific Rim (too dark/too much rain to fully appreciate fights) and Godzilla 2014 (too much teasing without immediate payoff), and they then seemingly took that criticism into account, because unlike Godzilla 2014, Kong gave plenty of screen time to the titular ape kicking ass from the start, and unlike Pacific Rim, it's almost all in glorious well lit daylight. Legendary has another Godzilla film coming in 2019, so that should hopefully serve as another indicator of them trying to do right by fans of a beloved franchise they've been entrusted with the rights to.

That said, while I do think Legendary is the best possible choice for doing a big budget, live action Hollywood Gundam film justice, they are by no means perfect, and, as Zeta pointed out, we have no idea who exactly is creatively behind the project, so caution is strongly advised. Because if it's someone like Michael Bay or JJ Abrams who's making the film, it won't matter which studio is funding production, the final product will make G-Saviour look like gold by comparison. On a positive note, it was announced that Sunrise will be co-producing the film with Legendary and collaborating on the scenario, so chances are the live action movie is probably going to be in reasonably safe hands, since Sunrise is notoriously protective of their golden goose.

Really the biggest problem I see creatively with the live action Gundam movie is that Gundam has never been the best at doing standalone single movies, because the stories Gundam tends to tell usually need more room to breathe than a mere two hours. Char's Counterattack really doesn't work so well without MSG (and to a much lesser extent Zeta and ZZ) for context, and, even then, it really needs more running time. F91 is more or less standalone, but it has the pacing of a compilation movie and doesn't really have a definitive conclusion, the final bit of text even suggests a direct sequel, which of course never got made (I think we're all probably familiar with F91's development history and why it's structured the way that it is and ends the way that it does). Then we have the 00 movie; it has pretty much the same kinds of issues as a standalone movie that Char's Counterattack does. The closest production I can think of for Gundam doing a standalone/complete story within a standard length movie's running time and telling it well with proper pacing is 0080: War in the Pocket, and, while a fantastic little OVA, it isn't exactly a normal Gundam story. Of course nothing is stopping Legendary and Sunrise from planning their live action Gundam movie as the first of a series, which would give them the room to let the story breathe (assuming of course that the first movie is successful enough to spawn a sequel).

I am a bit curious as to what approach they will take. Will they be adapting/remaking an existing work (e.g. First Gundam or Gundam Wing), a new (presumably stand alone/accessible) entry in an existing timeline (e.g. that UC2 project with an overseas partner that they "accidentally (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-04-20/gundam-hathaway-film-trilogy-overseas-gundam-uc2-drama-teased/.130647)" leaked at Gundam Narrative's official reveal), or, perhaps the most obvious approach, an all-new AU? Which approach do you guys think/hope they will take with the live action Gundam movie?

Predictably, I'm on team UC in terms of what I'm hoping for (be it an adaptation/remake of an existing work or a new story set within the UC timeline), but I'm not opposed to an all new AU either, if done right. Then again, given Legendary's talent for making movies about big robots/monsters beating the crap out of each other, and a certain AU's popularity in the West, I won't be at all shocked if they just say "screw it" and adapt G Gundam (or make a G sequel) as a big, dumb, glorious cheese fest of an action movie. Actually after typing that, if the live action movie can't be UC, I'd rather have a big dumb cheesy adaptation of G/FC than a brand new AU. :D

Ronové
July 6, 2018, 6:07 AM
I'm cautiously optimistic. The fact that it's being co-produced by Sunrise alleviates some of my initial concerns. But my biggest problem remains in that how do you tell a good Gundam story in only a couple of hours? And for that matter which timeline would you do or should they go original?


"plan to co-produce the first ever live action feature film of Gundam."
Poor G-Saviour, his daddy doesn't love him. :rolleyes:

Zeta
July 6, 2018, 6:10 AM
Ah, the hermit arrives on down from his seclusion to impart his wisdom. How have you been Zeta-G?

Ronové
July 6, 2018, 7:39 AM
Maybe I'm overthinking this, but analysing the language used and how Sunrise/Legendary have to agree on the mech design as well as the gentleman's comments about how it's not just making a film, "It's about creating a world" makes me think they'll be doing a new story. :confused:

As an aside, I really like that poster with the exhaust trail and horizon combining to make the "G". <3

https://www.gundam.info/content/dam/gundam/gundaminfo/jp/image/news/180706_legendary/GUNDAM_LIVE_ACTION_MOVIE_x700.jpg

Plamobot
July 6, 2018, 8:46 AM
I'm guessing it'll be a new AU, too. Easiest way to bring in new fans; that's how it's worked for the anime for 25 years.

Zeta
July 6, 2018, 11:19 AM
Maybe I'm overthinking this, but analysing the language used and how Sunrise/Legendary have to agree on the mech design as well as the gentleman's comments about how it's not just making a film, "It's about creating a world" makes me think they'll be doing a new story. :confused:

As an aside, I really like that poster with the exhaust trail and horizon combining to make the "G". <3

https://www.gundam.info/content/dam/gundam/gundaminfo/jp/image/news/180706_legendary/GUNDAM_LIVE_ACTION_MOVIE_x700.jpg


I'm guessing it'll be a new AU, too. Easiest way to bring in new fans; that's how it's worked for the anime for 25 years.

Not only do I agree with both of you that this project is going to be a new AU, but I think it will also be trilogy.

After thinking about it through the night, I have an idea of what kind of writer(s) and director are need for this to succeed. The creative team needs to be people who understand how to create a war drama. So far on my short list of directors is Christopher Nolan for two reasons: 1) he directed the sci-fi epic that is Interstellar, and 2) he directed the war drama Dunkirk.

Also, yes, that visual teaser image is genius. I wouldn't be surprised if they used that image as a teaser poster to put into movie theaters.

Rxslinger
July 6, 2018, 2:24 PM
I pray to God Micheal Bay will not be involved. I'm also kinda hoping this will be a entirely new store. I'm a little concerned how the original MSG would translate into a 2 hour long film and how well western audiences will accept the characters names. Yes I do know that did a 3 part movie version of that anime, but I feel a fresh story would work best for a live action movie.

Plamobot
July 6, 2018, 2:45 PM
Rumor has it that the film will be set in UC104.

Ronové
July 6, 2018, 2:57 PM
Rumor has it that the film will be set in UC104.
That would be interesting as that would put it in-between the events of Hathaway's Flash. :confused:

Zeta-G
July 6, 2018, 3:00 PM
ANN has a new article (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-07-06/sunrise-streams-live-action-gundam-film-announcement-video/.133912) with a video of the panel discussing the announcement. While they do talk about building a world as mentioned above, that doesn't really guarantee an all new AU, as that is fairly standard Hollywood talk for describing the process of making a good film (especially of the sci-fi, fantasy, and/or horror genre; basically things not set in the "real" world). The updated article also brings up the "accidental" reveal I referenced in my previous post of a "UC2" project with an "overseas drama" format, set in UC 104 with a 2022 release date, as part of their already announced "UC NexT 0100" project.

Thinking about it logically, late UC is undefined enough in terms of the animated/canonical timeline, that they could have some of the benefits freedom of an AU with regards to pulling in a new audience, while still also allowing them to build on their favored child and appeal to the longtime Gundam fans, by showing them the world they already love in a new way (live action, as G-Saviour obviously doesn't count anymore, Legendary Gundam being the "first" live action Gundam movie still cracks me up; Sunrise love to hate on poor G-Saviour, see it getting Zilla'd by Nils Nielson in Build Fighters). Let's not forget, Unicorn is one of their most successful Gundam releases in the West (along with G and of course Wing), despite being deeply tied into UC lore/history. I've personally been able to use Unicorn to pull people into the fandom, and while Unicorn definitely left them asking questions at times, it was still strong enough to stand on its own as an appealing/compelling story. The other point to consider is Legendary's mecha/kaiju films tend to do really well in non-US markets like China, where Gundam most certainly is better established than it is in the US, so they will consider those markets as well when planning their movie. Honestly, the biggest potential problem I see on this UC2 "overseas drama" being the live action movie is that they also "accidentally" leaked a Hathaway's Flash trilogy as part of UC NexT 0100 project. UC2 being set in UC 104, and Hathaway's Flash being set in UC 105, doesn't leave a lot of room for UC2 to play within the timeline.

Plus, even if you still don't think UC is the way to go, let's not kid ourselves Sunrise loves UC to their own detriment with westerners at times. Remember when they followed the newer, higher budget animation of mega-hit Wing with the then 20-year old, lower budget animation of MSG on a children's network, instead of doing the logical thing and airing X like Cartoon Network and even Bandai Entertainment wanted? I mean I really love MSG and all, but that was obviously not the smartest move on their part from a marketing/growing the brand standpoint.

But as for the movie itself, whatever it may end up being, I'm giddy about the potential cast. Legendary has employed some really good actors in their mecha/kaiju films. Rinko Kikuchi, Idris Elba, Ken Watanabe, Bryan Cranston, Tom Hiddleston, and John Goodman just to name a few. Assuming they don't go for an actual teenage lead for a moment and go a little older for the protagonist (think Kou, Shiro, etc.), imagine someone like Rinko Kikuchi or Tom Hiddleston as the lead (or cool senpai) and some of the Awesome Old Men listed above as their Bright/Jamil-like ship captain and/or Gihren Zabi/Bask Om-esque villain. Obviously, they could have other actors besides the ones they've previously used, but you get the point. Legendary likes to get good actors for these sorts of projects. And for the love of all things mecha, please no gundamn Mary Sues or Gary Stus. Characters should have flaws and be compelling because of how they grow, succeed and/or fail because of these flaws; they should not be simple author/audience wish-fulfilment and/or pandering devices. And it would be a real shame if the movie gets a rock solid cast who are then immediately weighed down by poorly written, implausibly perfect characters. Plus let's be honest, part of Gundam's tried and true formula has always been to slap whiny, emotionally unstable, selfish, flawed, albeit highly talented, immature teenagers/young adults into being less selfish, more mature characters over the course of the story. Not having flawed characters who grow and evolve over the course of the story would be missing the point of Gundam entirely.

Lord of the Manatees
July 6, 2018, 6:08 PM
I'm definitely a little worried about it but seeing as how it's been a hot minute since G-Saviour released and Legendary is involved in the movie I have some hope. Legendary has a pretty good track record when it comes to monster movies and even the occasional mecha movie (Pacific Rim). I believe if any studio will be able to capture the essence of Gundam it'll be them. So I'm definitely hopeful that it'll be more faithful to what Gundam is.

Kenico
July 7, 2018, 6:55 AM
1. how ya been Zeta-G Glad to see you've come out of your Cave. How's Bakunetsumaru?


2. I think you and the others have nailed all my expectations on the head at this point so I won't throw my two cents in since it's already been said by more intelligent peeps than myself.


3. If they go the UC/Canon AU route I would SO want either War in the Pocket, 8th MS Team, or X to be adapted. They have everything a western and eastern audience would want imo. Awesome fight scenes? Check, Romance subplots? You got it! Antiwar message out in the open yet delightfully subtle? You Betchya! IMO these three are the PRIME examples of how to do Gundam RIGHT. Now there may be more that I'm missing and strangely enough IBO i don't count if only thats a whole bag of cats I have YET to dive into (Though mind you I have seen both seasons)...and the Build series is really a glorified toy commercial...Not that there's anything wrong with that and they are awesome XD. Any who


4. If they go with a whole new AU All I am asking for in that is the core basics are nailed down and DONE RIGHT. If they add one or all of the themes I've spoken about above and then some Fantastic, but I'm also hoping they make the STORY, the SETTING, and the CHARACTERS unique but familiar to both Veterans of the Gundam Metaverse and newcomers into the franchise.


5. To be completely Honest this thing is about as epic as Dune. Meaning I hope they don't David Lynch it aka condense an 800 page book (or in this case a massive story of such scale and grandeur) into a 1-2 Hour movie. I actually would prefer if they made it into a 2-3 part movie. Gundam would be better formatted to this and The hobbit shockingly enough made a good call spreading its story out over 3 movies (dont' get me wrong it embellished/added some stuff to pad the time but still good call) and Gundam would be better off having a 2-3 Movie Trilogy than a Single movie. That is IF they do an adaptation. If they are able to tell a coherent, diverse, and fantastic Gundam Story with all the stuff both Gundam and Non Gundam Fans can enjoy than I applaud them.

All in all, I'm looking forward with this, though on the other hand despite all that I said here I'm still a bit nervous given Sunrises LAST attempt at a Live Action Gundam. Granted they are now doing a rodeo with a much bigger studio than with the one that did G-Savior but still, it only takes one dumbass to screw it all up. One more on to drop the colony if you would. For now I'll be keeping an eye on this and seeing how it goes. I still hold out hope that it will knock us out of the ball park but then again eh...

Riah
July 7, 2018, 9:33 AM
I pray to God Micheal Bay will not be involved. I'm also kinda hoping this will be a entirely new store. I'm a little concerned how the original MSG would translate into a 2 hour long film and how well western audiences will accept the characters names. Yes I do know that did a 3 part movie version of that anime, but I feel a fresh story would work best for a live action movie.

There's no word of Micheal Bay. We've only heard from Legendary's offiicial site that the movie will be "over-seen" by Cayl Boyter, a producer who's been involved in films like Noah, Blade Trinity,The butterfly Effect, and most relevant here... Pacific Rim Uprising. So yeah, it makes sense that we might get more folks involved with the two Pacific Rim films on this movie since they're both Legendary and those were mecha movies.

So I suppose if things go poorly, it'll be a repeat of Uprising. But here's hoping they learned from their mistakes with that film.
https://www.legendary.com/legendary-to-produce-live-action-feature-film-based-on-sunrises-wildly-popular-gundam-franchise/

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Lord of the Manatees
July 7, 2018, 1:45 PM
I mean I never saw a really big issue with Pacific Rim: Uprising, overall it was a good movie. I found it rather easy to watch and found it an overall pretty good sequel to Pacific Rim. Now did it beat out the original Pacific Rim for me? No it didn't but sequels rarely do for me anyway. It still kept the overall feel of Pacific Rim in it. I'm just really curious to see what route they will be taking for this movie.

windkami
July 7, 2018, 1:53 PM
I mean I never saw a really big issue with Pacific Rim: Uprising, overall it was a good movie. I found it rather easy to watch and found it an overall pretty good sequel to Pacific Rim. Now did it beat out the original Pacific Rim for me? No it didn't but sequels rarely do for me anyway. It still kept the overall feel of Pacific Rim in it. I'm just really curious to see what route they will be taking for this movie.

I agree the first Pacific Rim is a great movie, nothing award winning but it is a lot of fun. Uprising was also a lot of fun, but it was really simplistic, if you were expecting the story, and world to expand than you were just asking to be disappointed.

I also agree based on the language that it may be it's own story built on the Gundam tropes, which is honestly the smartest thing you can do, that way people cannot compare it to a previously written work and say it is to similar/dissimilar. Plus with it's own characters/casting we will not have to hear complaints of "whitewashing" or misinterpretations.

gundammonkey
July 7, 2018, 3:11 PM
I pray to God Micheal Bay will not be involved. I'm also kinda hoping this will be a entirely new store. I'm a little concerned how the original MSG would translate into a 2 hour long film and how well western audiences will accept the characters names. Yes I do know that did a 3 part movie version of that anime, but I feel a fresh story would work best for a live action movie.

I would have to agree about the whole Micheal Bay thing.
Please dear God! No Bay. Please don't attach that hatchet job of a director to this, he has already destroyed enough of the good things from the 80's. TMNT, destroyed, Transformers, Destroyed whats next on his list of targets? G.I.Joe and Mask, so sad but RIP Duke. So unless all you want is scantily clad girls (not women they can't be old enough to be legal) with Porn level acting and over done explosions, then by all means give it over to Bay. If you want a coherent story, decent acting, and a somewhat realistic Gundam fight then stay away from Bay.

Ronové
July 7, 2018, 5:27 PM
So I was talking with someone who was watching AGE for the first time and they remarked on how different the artstyle is as well as the mech design compared to classic UC.

And that got me thinking, I wonder what kind of style they'll go for in the LA movie? Since looking between UC, 00, AGE and IBO there are some radically different looking mech designs. I sense that they'll probably stick to a UC-esque design at least for the main Gundam. G-Saviour at least looked cool. ;)

I would be totally down if they somehow managed to get Syd Mead back to design the main Gundam. <3

windkami
July 7, 2018, 8:18 PM
So I was talking with someone who was watching AGE for the first time and they remarked on how different the artstyle is as well as the mech design compared to classic UC.

And that got me thinking, I wonder what kind of style they'll go for in the LA movie? Since looking between UC, 00, AGE and IBO there are some radically different looking mech designs. I sense that they'll probably stick to a UC-esque design at least for the main Gundam. G-Saviour at least looked cool. ;)

I would be totally down if they somehow managed to get Syd Mead back to design the main Gundam. <3

Yeah with Bandai-Namco, and Sunrise involved directly I would expect we will get some "safe" designs for the first movie.

Zeta-G
July 8, 2018, 2:34 AM
They might make the mobile suit designs a little busier (perhaps in the style of the 1/1 Gundams and RGs), but I don't expect them to venture too far away from the "normal" Gundam & mobile suit designs you see in stuff like UC, SEED, and AGE's not-Vagan designs. At most we might get some relatively minor deviations from the "normal" design language like you see in stuff like Wing, X, 00, Reconguista, and IBO. Off the wall crazy deviations from the norm like you see in G and the Build series are probably not going to happen; ditto for super busy Bayformers style designs lacking distinct personalities. Sunrise is still going to be involved, so don't be shocked if they use someone like Katoki, Okawara, and/or Ebikawa, to at least come up with the initial 2d line art that the eventual 3D CGI models are based off of. Sunrise will want the designs to still evoke classic Gundam, so they can easily push fans of Legendary Gundam into checking out traditional Gundam anime, manga, and non Legendary Gundam Gunpla.

windkami
July 8, 2018, 10:49 AM
They might make the mobile suit designs a little busier (perhaps in the style of the 1/1 Gundams and RGs), but I don't expect them to venture too far away from the "normal" Gundam & mobile suit designs you see in stuff like UC, SEED, and AGE's not-Vagan designs. At most we might get some relatively minor deviations from the "normal" design language like you see in stuff like Wing, X, 00, Reconguista, and IBO. Off the wall crazy deviations from the norm like you see in G and the Build series are probably not going to happen; ditto for super busy Bayformers style designs lacking distinct personalities. Sunrise is still going to be involved, so don't be shocked if they use someone like Katoki, Okawara, and/or Ebikawa, to at least come up with the initial 2d line art that the eventual 3D CGI models are based off of. Sunrise will want the designs to still evoke classic Gundam, so they can easily push fans of Legendary Gundam into checking out traditional Gundam anime, manga, and non Legendary Gundam Gunpla.

Yeah I agree we will probably get suits with more noticeable details but otherwise pull from more traditionally iconic designs. There may be some off the wall MA or design but the core Gundam suit will be classical. I also think that all the Japanese companies involved will want to keep it that way because if they plan to sell Gunpla kits/Toys their best audience will still be the old fans not necessarily the new fans.

Ronové
July 8, 2018, 1:23 PM
I've also been thinking about what kind of rating they could be aiming for.

Don't most movies nowadays aim for a PG-13 rating to get the highest number of butts on seats? :confused:

Zeta
July 8, 2018, 2:37 PM
I've also been thinking about what kind of rating they could be aiming for.

Don't most movies nowadays aim for a PG-13 rating to get the highest number of butts on seats? :confused:

That's probably what they are going to be aiming for. I mean, Dunkirk was a serious war drama but it wasn't violent enough to warrant a hard R rating like say Saving Private Ryan or Fury.

Zeta-G
July 8, 2018, 3:23 PM
PG-13 for sure. The DVDs/BDs of the various anime (and even G-Saviour) pretty much always have had the equivalent self-assigned content rating. Legendary’s mecha/kaiju films have also all had PG-13 ratings. Gundam’s violence is rarely depicted in a super graphic enough way to warrant anything higher (although the occasional pilot getting cut in half like Nicol or certain bad guys like Ali might flirt with the line between PG-13 & R). Gundam has also never been an explicitly sexual series, so it should probably be safe there too (unless it has a naked newtype space scene, then all bets are off with the prudish MPAA; god forbid a boob be seen, even though plenty of violence is usually A-OK with them to get a PG-13 instead of R).

GundamRemake
July 8, 2018, 6:23 PM
The burning thing falling to Earth after leaving its orbit seen in the teaser is obviously a Space Colony;
The announcement on Legendary's official site describes in depth First Gundam's storyline, to the extent of citing Amuro's maturation;
RX-78-2 is an official mascot of Tokyo Olympic Games in 2020;
The Origin OVA was stopped before retelling First Gundam story, thus preventing it to become a remake more than a prequel story;
No doubt this announced live action movie will be set in a "New Cinematic Universal Century" and will retell First Gundam with the same characters in an updated story. No doubt it will be a two or three movies (filmed back-to-back) story arc to set a starting point for a new franchise.

Ronové
July 8, 2018, 6:28 PM
I could definitely see mook mobile suits resembling the Flags or the AirMaster in how they could be planes normally and then switch to a "robot mode". Could potentially save a bit on the budget that way, even if it does skew a little towards the more Macross style.

As for the main Gundam, I wonder what kind of gimmicks they might choose? The original RX-78-02 really didn't have much in the way of special features, but then that might be for the best for an initial film. Maybe give Psycommu (or some variant) to the villains for the hero to overcome and then in a potential sequel they can use it.

gundammonkey
July 9, 2018, 11:04 AM
god forbid a boob be seen, even though plenty of violence is usually A-OK

Just ask Facebook, Fear the NIPPLE!!! The sanctity of all society is in the balance of the fear of the sight of a female Nipple! Such horrors should not be thrust upon our innocent youth. :)

Plamobot
July 9, 2018, 1:37 PM
Yeah, this ain't a 1980s horror movie.

Zeta-G
July 9, 2018, 3:25 PM
Just ask Facebook, Fear the NIPPLE!!! The sanctity of all society is in the balance of the fear of the sight of a female Nipple! Such horrors should not be thrust upon our innocent youth. :)

I see what you did there. ;)

@Plamobot: To be perfectly honest, if this live action Gundam film ends up being a bastardized take on Gundam, I’d much rather it be a bastardization with 80’s slasher tropes than Bayformers tropes. Imagine a movie about a brutal serial killer using a Mobile Suit to gratuitously terrorize, torture, and murder a bunch of innocent teenagers, before one terrorized teenage girl is finally able to dig down and find enough inner strength to rise up, fight back against the psycho, and put him down. Sounds a lot closer thematically to the forced maturization in the face of the harsh/tragic realities of war plot line commonly found at the heart of Gundam stories than the completely dumb, thoughtless violence and stupid, tasteless, and/or racist/sexist jokes of a typical Bayformers movie do. And if it properly follows the 80’s slasher formula we’d even finally get a female protagonist in Gundam out of the deal, so that’d be something.

Don’t get me wrong, I’d much rather have a not-bastardized “real” Gundam story authentically based on (the spirit of) UC/Gundam in general that follows all of the standard Gundam tropes than any kind of bastardization, but if Hollywood has to bastardize Gundam, there’s far worse ways to do it than following the standard 80’s slasher formula. Basically an Ali al-Sanchez type as a Mobile Suit using serial killer who eventually gets his comeuppance wouldn’t be the worst/most inauthentic/most bastardized possible Gundam movie in the world. Just saying.

gundammonkey
July 9, 2018, 4:01 PM
I see what you did there. ;)

TEE HEE HEE...I would never use such innuendoes, that would be bad.Because you see I'm one of the innocent people, pure as the fresh driven snow. Ya that's it, the picture of innocents and purity that's me. :D

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Either way this movie goes I will be one of the sheeple who goes to see it. Good or bad they will most likely get my money. Just like when I (freely admit to this.) bought the DVD of G-Savoir. Plus all this talk of a live action, i had to watch it this weekend. aaaannnd my eyes still hurt.

Plamobot
July 9, 2018, 4:06 PM
@Plamobot: To be perfectly honest, if this live action Gundam film ends up being a bastardized take on Gundam, I’d much rather it be a bastardization with 80’s slasher tropes than Bayformers tropes.

Now that's what I actually want. But we won't get it. :D

windkami
July 10, 2018, 4:10 PM
I could definitely see mook mobile suits resembling the Flags or the AirMaster in how they could be planes normally and then switch to a "robot mode". Could potentially save a bit on the budget that way, even if it does skew a little towards the more Macross style.

As for the main Gundam, I wonder what kind of gimmicks they might choose? The original RX-78-02 really didn't have much in the way of special features, but then that might be for the best for an initial film. Maybe give Psycommu (or some variant) to the villains for the hero to overcome and then in a potential sequel they can use it.

I hope not, I hope they get a decent budget, and just follow classic gundam beats, there can only be so much fighting in a "war drama" so that will save enough on special effects budget. I think keeping it toned down at first is the best way to go. Maybe not as much as classic (although i would be perfectly fine with that) because a little bit of flare will draw in younger kids for sure.

The next question is what kind of space powers will we see? Perhaps even in a non-UC series we will still get newtypes just to keep the Gundam flavor, I would not put it past a studio to do such things.

GundamRemake
July 16, 2018, 8:52 AM
21171

Riah
July 16, 2018, 10:34 AM
That's some horrid photoshop. God, was that just heads put onto figures? And using model kit art in the background?

Zeta
July 16, 2018, 1:15 PM
That's some horrid photoshop. God, was that just heads put onto figures? And using model kit art in the background?

Yes, yes, and yes.

gundammonkey
July 16, 2018, 3:53 PM
AAAAnd last I checked Char did not look like he was strung out on Heroin. Bad choice of so called "Actor"

Riah
July 16, 2018, 6:32 PM
The more I look into it the weirder it is.

Ty Simpkins is actually super appropriate agewise to play Amuro since he's 16, Amuro being 15-16 in 0079. BUT the pictured used for the photoshop is when Ty is much, much younger...

Granted, if I did do casting myself I'd probably want somebody Mestizo/Hispanic or Asian to play Amuro since that'd make more sense than a white kid considering his mother appears to be from Rosarito, Mexico and his father from Japan.

Ronové
July 16, 2018, 7:03 PM
Wait, I'm confused. Is that photo actually real? :confused:

Zeta
July 16, 2018, 7:04 PM
Wait, I'm confused. Is that photo actually real? :confused:

No, it is not real. It is clearly Photoshopped using the boxart images of both the RG RX-78-2 Gundam and MS-06S Zaku II Commander Type (Char Custom), as well as the character statues of Aumro and Char (I actually have the Char statue).

Zeta-G
July 16, 2018, 9:24 PM
Eww... that photoshop is horrid. Quality of the actual photoshop aside, the actors used do not look like or even evoke the general idea of the characters of Amuro and Char. In that way, it makes me think of how most major Hollywood studios would probably cast the movie. Needless to say that’s a depressing thought.

RileyWarfield
July 20, 2018, 5:24 AM
You know what? I really REALLY don't want Sunrise to have a overbearing authority over this film like they did with G-Savior. Most of that movie's issues stemmed from Sunrise's meddling with the project, the budget, actors, and so forth.

Zeta-G
March 6, 2019, 3:44 PM
Looks like Legendary has hired Brian K. Vaughan to be the screenwriter for their live action Gundam movie: https://deadline.com/2019/03/brian-k-vaughan-gundam-live-action-movie-legendary-1202569112/

Plamobot
March 6, 2019, 3:59 PM
Awesome, his works have been very good.

Zeta
March 6, 2019, 4:10 PM
Awesome, his works have been very good.

Really? Well that gives me some hope. However, having a screenwriter is only part of the equation. We still need a sizeable and manageable budget, actors and actresses, and director that can best translate the script into cinematic action.

Zeta-G
March 6, 2019, 5:01 PM
Assuming Vaughan (and the eventual director) doesn't try to "Americanize" Gundam/make it his own, Legendary has proven themselves with Pacific Rim, Godzilla, and Kong, so I wouldn't worry about things like budget, effects, finding the right actors, etc. As for Vaughan himself, I'm not familiar with most of his work, but I know he wrote some early issues of Buffy Season 8 and managed to keep that franchise's distinctive voice intact, so here's hoping he'll show Gundam the same respect.